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We you looking for a web based VPN solution, so someone hits an https page then they get presented with a login and password and it opens up a port based VPN session? or are you looking for a full blown VPN into your network with like IPSEC or PPTP type thing?

No web based vpn just a straight forward open vpn connection from my home computer to the server. The webserver has nothing to do with the vpn. At the moment I just want to connect from home to the internet via the vpn.

This should get you in the right direction... firgure out what one suits your needs and go from there. PPTP is least secure as far as most people are concerned but it is the most versitile. Iphone, Macs, Windows, Blackberries etc...

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VPN[^]

Hi Guys,

Is it a good thing to restart application servers and data base servers periodically.. once for a 6 month like wise???

If they are windows servers you will want to patch them periodically with updates so yes rebooting is important. If they are Linux servers... well I only reboot them when they need it.

Thanx for the update. But my concern is not about the servers. My concern is about the application performance. is there any affect to the application performance when we do restart the servers??

It really depends on the application. Some applications rely heavily on caching. Some that do will possibly see a negative affect for some period of time after a restart. Some however may see a boost in performance if there is no garbage collection or cache purging to remove stale items.

There are few applications that I have ever had to managed that required any sort of restarting in order to stay running properly. If it needs to be restarted then something is wrong with it.

Time will tell I guess but after giving Windows 8 and Windows 8 Server a full shakedown for a few weeks. I can honestly say that I am not happy with this new interface. The whole Metro style and tablet feel may work well if you are using oh I don’t know… a tablet. Not so well if you are at a desk. I can however envision this being useful in some scenarios….

Like say if you are at the command of a Galactic Destroyer where gravity isn’t going to cause your arms to fall off as you flap your hands around at 3D hologram screens while battling an alien overlord that is trying to take over Earth….

While you read this imagine yourself with no mouse or keyboard and instead of resting your arms on your armrests, your hands are extended out in front you for 8 hours…

Now of course you can still use a keyboard and a mouse, but it’s cludgy to move around. There are shortcuts and function keys you can use to do things, some navigation is actually faster once you learn all the shortcuts. Many things however you have to hover. I HATE being forced to hover. It just feels wrong. Like someone is sucking my life force out of me while I am forced to concentrate on doing absolutely nothing while I wait for some random timer to go off that allows me to do something ….

IMHO

On a Tablet? Yah sure, why not.
On a Desktop? Default theme with an Optional Traditional Setup Theme.
On a Server? I guess maybe as an optional theme at install time, but disabled and not installed default.

I want my my start button back...

Yes, I know I can use Powershell or I can even choose to have no graphical UI. Heck I do this all the time on my Linux servers. Powershell just doesn't feel so powerful and part of the reason why people install Windows is to have things to click on. Windows is supposed to make things easy. This new UI just doesn't do it for me.

I think this is a very a bold move by Microsoft, clearly pointed at Apple to try and have people interact with the screen in a more personal level. However this move does not seem to be one that is not well accepted thus far by the community.

What say you???

Didn't you hear about the Galactic Destroyer in Area 51?
Poke tongue | ;-P

I tried to float a weather balloon over area 51 to take pictures of it but it got shot down before I could retrieve it... Frown | :(

My prediction is that Windows 7 will be the next Windows XP. The version of Windows most people camp out on for the next decade.

I think you're right. I am really not liking this layout on the server side of things. Frown | :(

Is it possible to find
What communication occuring between two computer.
as
Image sending?
text sending?
other ......
from one system to other

Yes but not easily. Especially difficult if you don't have access to one of the machines, firewall between them or router. If they have local firewalls enabled, and you don't have access to the machines, and you don't control the firewall or gateway for either machine the answer is essentially no.

Is there any inbuilt application/third party application?
or
Should I need programming to achive this?

If you have admin access to one of the systems you can use a packet sniffer (e.g. wireshark)
An external device can also be implemented (e.g. endace)

So far I only work with systems that are a part of just a work group or a single system. I Have not done any Active directory or Domain group work.

Over the last few weeks I have been looking into the problems with remote assistance, and found several reasons why it wouldn't work.
My problem is the lack of understanding on remote users.
I have found several web pages that tell how to add a remote user but none of them show the format of what you are supposed to put in the boxes.

Would someone please point me in the right direction.

are you talking about users using RDP to remote into work systems/servers such as terminal server?

more like the other way around, where somone could remote into a home system.or to another office that has no true "Server" products prestent.
I'm trying to undertand the way the User account are set up on both ends.

you dont have to have a server to use remote access its built into windows machines.

First option. You need some sort of VPN type connection that will link you to the remote network you are trying to get to. Then you will have to have Remote desktop enabled on the target machine. Then you will have to have the person remoting to that machine have permission on the target machine to remote into it.

Second option(and the easiest if you are just trying to get into a home pc or do not have corporate restrictions) use something such as logmein free version. Install it on the target machine, use logmein to get to it. done.

Thats about all the help I can give you without more information such as, is this something for a remote business office and it is allowed by company standards? Are you working for a really small business as the it person and trying to figure out the cheapest/easiest solution. Things of this nature. If you are trying to get around a company IT policy then neither of the above options will work very well and I am not comfortable giving you options that would.

I have a Computer Repair company and I am looking into ways to do remote desktop repair,without adding third party products to the customers computer.
I know that Remote Desktop And remote assistance do not work exactly the same way. I have had several customers that I needed to do a remote session with but remote assistance Outside of messenger is a pain unless you are on the same subnet.

What I was trying to figure out was the way Microsoft(Dell,HP,ect..)built in the user accounts for for remote helper, I would like to be able to do that for my customers.
I'm having trouble figuring out when you would need to add a account ,how or where you need to add an account, which system you need to add it to.And what format it would need to be in.just a user name, Machine\ User Name or what.
I have read several things but it is just not sinking in for some reason.
Edit:
The only thing I have ever really had to do with remote accounts is to disable or remove them,I have never had to set one up before.

modified 18-Apr-12 18:34pm.

neither of my solutions would work for you then(logmein would require a third party install).
Have you looked at something such as www.join.me ? That would require the user to connect and give permission on a case by case basis, not just access any time you wish. Just a possible suggestion.

Just looked at that, not for me.
My question was originaly around getting a better understanding of remote user accounts,after reading stuff again I guess it would depend on if you were connecting in a domain or active directory or you were just wanting do a remote desktop session.
It is just one of those things that should be simple to understand ,but just won't sink in.
once I can figure out what needed to be put where then I could understand better.

I may need to write my own program to achive what I am wanting to do.I still have allot more learning to do in order to create a secure program.
Thanks for your time.

WebEx is a real good option if you don't want to have to install anytihng on the other machine. If you want something free you can use VNC. You can also have them sign into Windows Live Messenger and add you as a friend then they can initiate remote assistance through that. RDP is the other option. and they can add a local user on there machine, then go to a place like whatsmyip.org to get there IP address, and open up a port on the firewall for you.
RDP is generally not considered secure though.

I think if you check out webex you will be happy with it. It is well known in the industry.

I have been using messenger but some of the dog systems I'm trying to connect to are even slower runing thru microsoft servers.
I have used VNC several years ago to connect to a (Un named) University System.
I've written a small app that will get the internal and external ip of a system.

Ok looks like at the moment I need to learn more about the rdp. I was going cross eyed trying to read thru it all.I downloaded the Whole spec.

After some more testing today I discovered Windows 7 Pro Uses IPv6 addresses and the loopack adapter to connect remote assistance.
While Connected using a ticket between Win 7 Pro (novice) and Win Vista Ultimate (Expert) on the Win 7 system:
Tunnel adapter Local Area 9 IPv6 address listening on TCP port 49246
tunnel adapter Link-Local IPv6 address listening on TCP port 49245
Another link local address Listening on TCP Port 49245 (posibly the Wireless card)
Same LinkLocal address Conected to remote system on same TCP port 49245.
Still not totaly sure what all of that means, but don't think those ports agree with what is published. WIll have to recheck the documentaion again.

I was compairing what was open before during and after a connection for remote assistance.

Thanks for the Links